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#63198: "Deal making should be a simultaneous turn, with required action (even if it's just "do nothing")"
#63198: "Deal making should be a simultaneous turn, with required action (even if it's just "do nothing")"
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• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(當前遊戲指示是什麼)
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Mozilla v5
案件沿革
2022年 4月20日 9:30 • Jellby • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
This, I believe, would work for both real-time and turn-based games. The timer would run down for all players simultaneously, until they choose "pass", and everyone would get notified (in turn-based mode) whenever a deal is open. It also gives the chance for anyone to react to a deal or other cards, for example play a travel card on an influence card that has just been played, or play a boss card before another player (who already has all required influence) can conclude a deal.
2022年 4月20日 9:37 • stefano • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
I think you're not getting the spirit of the game... the boss is not willing to wait all player to declare pass... actually sometimes is the faster to offer gets the deal...
Have you ever played the boardgame?
Have you ever played the boardgame?
2022年 4月20日 9:47 • Jellby • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
No, I haven't
If it's just an "act fast" game (like dobble/spot it), then turn-based game should simply be disabled.
If it's just an "act fast" game (like dobble/spot it), then turn-based game should simply be disabled.
2022年 4月20日 10:06 • stefano • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
I suggest you to play the boardgame before making suggestion, so you can experience the real flavour of it.
I was in favour to disable turn based game, but it seems that players are in favour to have it...
I was in favour to disable turn based game, but it seems that players are in favour to have it...
2022年 4月20日 14:34 • Jellby • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
I can't play the real game, sorry.
But the manual says the boss should say something like "going once, going twice, gone" before concluding the deal, which (to me) obviously indicates that the other players should have a chance of doing something, even if the boss doesn't want them to.
I'm not opposed to having a turn-based option per se, but as it is now I believe it is not working. I have to actively go online and enter the table to see if by any chance there's any deal going on, where I may have something to say. You said elsewhere that you can always play cards while a deal is still open, but that's not true. First, you have to wait for a deal to be open (and there's no notification about it), and second, while the game is asking another player whether or not they want to play a stop card, I can't do anything. So I can only look into the table from time to time, and be lucky enough that I catch a moment where I can play my boss/travel/recruitment card (on other people's turn).
This is already annoying in real time (there should always be some forced wait, maybe 10 seconds, before a deal is concluded so others have time to play cards), but in turn-based mode it's completely game-breaking.
But the manual says the boss should say something like "going once, going twice, gone" before concluding the deal, which (to me) obviously indicates that the other players should have a chance of doing something, even if the boss doesn't want them to.
I'm not opposed to having a turn-based option per se, but as it is now I believe it is not working. I have to actively go online and enter the table to see if by any chance there's any deal going on, where I may have something to say. You said elsewhere that you can always play cards while a deal is still open, but that's not true. First, you have to wait for a deal to be open (and there's no notification about it), and second, while the game is asking another player whether or not they want to play a stop card, I can't do anything. So I can only look into the table from time to time, and be lucky enough that I catch a moment where I can play my boss/travel/recruitment card (on other people's turn).
This is already annoying in real time (there should always be some forced wait, maybe 10 seconds, before a deal is concluded so others have time to play cards), but in turn-based mode it's completely game-breaking.
2022年 6月 2日 6:40 • felipe1982 • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
I am currently in a turn-based game where nobody knows what to do, or who's turn it is. I have played all the cards that I can. The game isn't making the other players aware that they must act. The game is stalling, and is not enjoyable.
I have read the rules, but I have never played this game before.
I don't think it should be required for anybody to go and buy a boardgame, set up a game night with friends, and try out the game before playing a game on boardgamearena.
I think online play at boardgamearena makes games that are unavailable, or too expensive to play in real life, accessible to a larger audience.
Requiring real-world knowlegde of a game is against the spirit of BGA in my personal opinion.
The role a developer on boardgamearena is a very turbulent. I certainly understand there are many technical and cultural and social challenges to try to overcome. Games on BGA should be as enjoyable as possible, and this sometimes includes listening to the feedback that players are raising, especially for games in BETA status.
I have read the rules, but I have never played this game before.
I don't think it should be required for anybody to go and buy a boardgame, set up a game night with friends, and try out the game before playing a game on boardgamearena.
I think online play at boardgamearena makes games that are unavailable, or too expensive to play in real life, accessible to a larger audience.
Requiring real-world knowlegde of a game is against the spirit of BGA in my personal opinion.
The role a developer on boardgamearena is a very turbulent. I certainly understand there are many technical and cultural and social challenges to try to overcome. Games on BGA should be as enjoyable as possible, and this sometimes includes listening to the feedback that players are raising, especially for games in BETA status.
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