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#67799: "Allow ALL players to guess after correct guess in 3p and 4p"
#67799: "Allow ALL players to guess after correct guess in 3p and 4p"
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建議:依我所見,有些調整將大幅增進遊戲完成度
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建議:依我所見,有些調整將大幅增進遊戲完成度
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• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v103
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v103
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v103
• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v103
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v103
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v103
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(當前遊戲指示是什麼)
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v103
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v103
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v103
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
I love the concept of this game, but the game is very unbalanced for 3 and 4 players. Every time I start a game, I'm hoping I'm in last position, because that greatly improves my winning chances.
Could you add a variant where, after a correct guess, ALL other player get one last chance to guess the code? Even the ones that were before the player that found the code in turn order. The players should not be allowed to ask anymore questions at this stage of the game.
I think this would make the game much fairer and it's not that hard to implement.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v103
案件沿革
2022年 7月14日 23:34 • Keso77 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
This is my biggest negative aspect of this game as well.
The 4th player have information from the three players before him while the 1st have non. If the third player guess correct, the 4th have the chance to guess as well to split the victory, while the 1st and 2nd player are not allowed, even if they would have the same information as the 3ed and 4th player. There is no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to answer as well.
The 4th player have information from the three players before him while the 1st have non. If the third player guess correct, the 4th have the chance to guess as well to split the victory, while the 1st and 2nd player are not allowed, even if they would have the same information as the 3ed and 4th player. There is no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to answer as well.
2022年 7月15日 9:23 • ufm • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
BGA basically does not adopt house rules, unless the publisher agrees.
2022年 7月21日 20:44 • JCase16 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I can tell you this game will die for more than 2 players if this isn't implemented. The publisher hopefully can see this issue and will make a rule change in their own game too.
2022年 7月26日 13:21 • stefano • 開發者需要更詳細的建議內容:
I asked the publisher about this. Will keep you posted.
2022年 7月27日 15:08 • stefano • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
Reply from the publisher:
"Let's stick to the rules for now, I'll have the project manager and the author test the game later to find a solution, I'll get back to you."
"Let's stick to the rules for now, I'll have the project manager and the author test the game later to find a solution, I'll get back to you."
2022年 8月 9日 10:43 • HarryPeteur • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
Is it possible to talk to the game designer about this flaw?
2022年 9月 5日 20:59 • iris1 • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
Please consider again. The game is so good, but this change would make it perfect! Everybody should be able to guess after getting same info.
2022年 9月15日 3:20 • lastcocoabean • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
Agreed. There is HUGE last-player advantage here. The last player will always have more information than the other players, and can simply end the game with that correct information. Another vote for reconsideration!
2022年 9月15日 8:20 • stefano • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
Unfortunately I checked with the publisher and for now they are not willing to sponsor an house rule.
2022年 9月15日 12:11 • Keso77 • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
Couldn't we just have an option "unofficial rule change, not supported by the publisher", that could be off by default? If we see that everyone plays the game with the option enabled, then maybe they should reconsider.
2022年 9月15日 12:15 • stefano • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
No, because BGA doesn't support house rules per policy... It's not my decision, sorry.
2022年 9月15日 18:04 • s-klickerklacker • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
Agreed. There is HUGE last-player advantage here. The last player will always have more information than the other players, and can simply end the game with that correct information. Another vote for reconsideration!
if it is not possible to change the rules, please let check me, if ill be the first player before starting game, so i can quit without loosing points.
if it is not possible to change the rules, please let check me, if ill be the first player before starting game, so i can quit without loosing points.
2022年 9月24日 20:46 • Denis • 開發者認為這並非好主意,或投資報酬率過低:
I just saw this issue after posting the same thing in #72453. I would like to add one suggestion to the conversation that may be amenable and improve the problem that the first player is at a big disadvantage:
Allow players to Guess the Tiles AFTER making their move, before their turn is finished. The last player will still have an advantage over the first player, but it will not be as bad.
To take it further, another change that might be consistent with the original rules is if a player elects to "Guess the Tiles", then other players have the option to do the same (before knowing the result of the first player's guess). For reference, the BGA implementation states the following "NOTE: Although there are multiple versions of this game, this adaptation uses the version whereby you may only guess during your turn NOT out of turn"
Allow players to Guess the Tiles AFTER making their move, before their turn is finished. The last player will still have an advantage over the first player, but it will not be as bad.
To take it further, another change that might be consistent with the original rules is if a player elects to "Guess the Tiles", then other players have the option to do the same (before knowing the result of the first player's guess). For reference, the BGA implementation states the following "NOTE: Although there are multiple versions of this game, this adaptation uses the version whereby you may only guess during your turn NOT out of turn"
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