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#70102: "Suggestions to improve the logs when showing clues"
#70102: "Suggestions to improve the logs when showing clues"
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建議:依我所見,有些調整將大幅增進遊戲完成度
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建議:依我所見,有些調整將大幅增進遊戲完成度
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細節描述
• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Current log message: "It's time to reveal all clues: bird, Round, Thermostat, wasp, home, home". This is the only time clues are indicated in the log.
Suggestions:
1) Indicate to which player each clue belonged
"It's time to reveal all clues to all players: bird [player1], Round [player2], Thermostat [player3], wasp [player4], home [player5], home [player6]"
2) If the interface allows to show a message log only to certain players, show a message similar to this one for all players EXCEPT THE GUESSER right after the judge validates
"Validated clues: clue1 [player1], clue2[player2] Invalidated clues: clue3[player3], clue4 [player4] (the guesser does not see this message!)"
This is because players forget invalidated clues.• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v104
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Current log message: "It's time to reveal all clues: bird, Round, Thermostat, wasp, home, home". This is the only time clues are indicated in the log.
Suggestions:
1) Indicate to which player each clue belonged
"It's time to reveal all clues to all players: bird [player1], Round [player2], Thermostat [player3], wasp [player4], home [player5], home [player6]"
2) If the interface allows to show a message log only to certain players, show a message similar to this one for all players EXCEPT THE GUESSER right after the judge validates
"Validated clues: clue1 [player1], clue2[player2] Invalidated clues: clue3[player3], clue4 [player4] (the guesser does not see this message!)"
This is because players forget invalidated clues.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v104
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
Current log message: "It's time to reveal all clues: bird, Round, Thermostat, wasp, home, home". This is the only time clues are indicated in the log.
Suggestions:
1) Indicate to which player each clue belonged
"It's time to reveal all clues to all players: bird [player1], Round [player2], Thermostat [player3], wasp [player4], home [player5], home [player6]"
2) If the interface allows to show a message log only to certain players, show a message similar to this one for all players EXCEPT THE GUESSER right after the judge validates
"Validated clues: clue1 [player1], clue2[player2] Invalidated clues: clue3[player3], clue4 [player4] (the guesser does not see this message!)"
This is because players forget invalidated clues.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v104
• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
Current log message: "It's time to reveal all clues: bird, Round, Thermostat, wasp, home, home". This is the only time clues are indicated in the log.
Suggestions:
1) Indicate to which player each clue belonged
"It's time to reveal all clues to all players: bird [player1], Round [player2], Thermostat [player3], wasp [player4], home [player5], home [player6]"
2) If the interface allows to show a message log only to certain players, show a message similar to this one for all players EXCEPT THE GUESSER right after the judge validates
"Validated clues: clue1 [player1], clue2[player2] Invalidated clues: clue3[player3], clue4 [player4] (the guesser does not see this message!)"
This is because players forget invalidated clues.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v104
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
Current log message: "It's time to reveal all clues: bird, Round, Thermostat, wasp, home, home". This is the only time clues are indicated in the log.
Suggestions:
1) Indicate to which player each clue belonged
"It's time to reveal all clues to all players: bird [player1], Round [player2], Thermostat [player3], wasp [player4], home [player5], home [player6]"
2) If the interface allows to show a message log only to certain players, show a message similar to this one for all players EXCEPT THE GUESSER right after the judge validates
"Validated clues: clue1 [player1], clue2[player2] Invalidated clues: clue3[player3], clue4 [player4] (the guesser does not see this message!)"
This is because players forget invalidated clues.• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v104
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
Current log message: "It's time to reveal all clues: bird, Round, Thermostat, wasp, home, home". This is the only time clues are indicated in the log.
Suggestions:
1) Indicate to which player each clue belonged
"It's time to reveal all clues to all players: bird [player1], Round [player2], Thermostat [player3], wasp [player4], home [player5], home [player6]"
2) If the interface allows to show a message log only to certain players, show a message similar to this one for all players EXCEPT THE GUESSER right after the judge validates
"Validated clues: clue1 [player1], clue2[player2] Invalidated clues: clue3[player3], clue4 [player4] (the guesser does not see this message!)"
This is because players forget invalidated clues.• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v104
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(當前遊戲指示是什麼)
Current log message: "It's time to reveal all clues: bird, Round, Thermostat, wasp, home, home". This is the only time clues are indicated in the log.
Suggestions:
1) Indicate to which player each clue belonged
"It's time to reveal all clues to all players: bird [player1], Round [player2], Thermostat [player3], wasp [player4], home [player5], home [player6]"
2) If the interface allows to show a message log only to certain players, show a message similar to this one for all players EXCEPT THE GUESSER right after the judge validates
"Validated clues: clue1 [player1], clue2[player2] Invalidated clues: clue3[player3], clue4 [player4] (the guesser does not see this message!)"
This is because players forget invalidated clues.• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v104
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Current log message: "It's time to reveal all clues: bird, Round, Thermostat, wasp, home, home". This is the only time clues are indicated in the log.
Suggestions:
1) Indicate to which player each clue belonged
"It's time to reveal all clues to all players: bird [player1], Round [player2], Thermostat [player3], wasp [player4], home [player5], home [player6]"
2) If the interface allows to show a message log only to certain players, show a message similar to this one for all players EXCEPT THE GUESSER right after the judge validates
"Validated clues: clue1 [player1], clue2[player2] Invalidated clues: clue3[player3], clue4 [player4] (the guesser does not see this message!)"
This is because players forget invalidated clues.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v104
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Current log message: "It's time to reveal all clues: bird, Round, Thermostat, wasp, home, home". This is the only time clues are indicated in the log.
Suggestions:
1) Indicate to which player each clue belonged
"It's time to reveal all clues to all players: bird [player1], Round [player2], Thermostat [player3], wasp [player4], home [player5], home [player6]"
2) If the interface allows to show a message log only to certain players, show a message similar to this one for all players EXCEPT THE GUESSER right after the judge validates
"Validated clues: clue1 [player1], clue2[player2] Invalidated clues: clue3[player3], clue4 [player4] (the guesser does not see this message!)"
This is because players forget invalidated clues.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v104
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
Current log message: "It's time to reveal all clues: bird, Round, Thermostat, wasp, home, home". This is the only time clues are indicated in the log.
Suggestions:
1) Indicate to which player each clue belonged
"It's time to reveal all clues to all players: bird [player1], Round [player2], Thermostat [player3], wasp [player4], home [player5], home [player6]"
2) If the interface allows to show a message log only to certain players, show a message similar to this one for all players EXCEPT THE GUESSER right after the judge validates
"Validated clues: clue1 [player1], clue2[player2] Invalidated clues: clue3[player3], clue4 [player4] (the guesser does not see this message!)"
This is because players forget invalidated clues.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v104
案件沿革
2022年 8月16日 20:06 • aghagh • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
A small improvement to my suggestion in case it's feasible:
"Validated clues: clue1 [player1], clue2[player2]" (for everyone)
"Invalidated clues: clue3[player3], clue4 [player4] (the guesser does not see this message!)" (not for guesser)
"Validated clues: clue1 [player1], clue2[player2]" (for everyone)
"Invalidated clues: clue3[player3], clue4 [player4] (the guesser does not see this message!)" (not for guesser)
2022年10月29日 18:15 • aghagh • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Now that turn-based games have been enabled this part of the log is more important. A player gives a clue without seeing those from the rest of the players and when they come back to the table the game is already at the next table. It cannot be tracked in the log who gave which clue and what was invalidated. Automatically invalidated clues do not appear in the log, only manual ones, but not which one. If you see there were two potentially invalid clues and you see in the log that the judge invalidated one of them, which one was it ? You can ask in the chat, but maybe the judge doesn't remember (playing turn-based usually means playing a lot of paralell tables).
Maybe the log could be improved to something like this:
"It's time to reveal all clues to all players: clue1 [player1 - validated], clue2 [player2 - validated], clue3 [player3 - automatically invalidated], clue4 [player4 - automatically invalidated], clue5 [player5 - invalidated by playerX], clue6 [player6 - invalidated by playerX]"
So for each clue the info would be the name of the player who gave it and what happened with it (validated / automatically invalidated / invalidated by playerX)
I see a potential for misunderstandings and arguments with the current state of the logs as fair players would not easily identify players not up to their judge responsibilities.
Maybe the log could be improved to something like this:
"It's time to reveal all clues to all players: clue1 [player1 - validated], clue2 [player2 - validated], clue3 [player3 - automatically invalidated], clue4 [player4 - automatically invalidated], clue5 [player5 - invalidated by playerX], clue6 [player6 - invalidated by playerX]"
So for each clue the info would be the name of the player who gave it and what happened with it (validated / automatically invalidated / invalidated by playerX)
I see a potential for misunderstandings and arguments with the current state of the logs as fair players would not easily identify players not up to their judge responsibilities.
2022年11月 4日 0:59 • Waltex • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Yes I support the suggestion for the interface to show:
"The word was Flight. Players gave these clues: bird [player1], Round [player2], Thermostat [player3], wasp [player4], home [player5], home [player6]"
This is because in the chat people regularly discuss clues after the person has guessed the word.
For example, they may say, "I really liked Raven's clue. Thank you".
And then the rest of us are left wondering, "Which was Raven's clue?" So then we have to ask in the chat.
But if these details commonly appear in the interface on the side, then it will be common knowledge who gave what clue.
"The word was Flight. Players gave these clues: bird [player1], Round [player2], Thermostat [player3], wasp [player4], home [player5], home [player6]"
This is because in the chat people regularly discuss clues after the person has guessed the word.
For example, they may say, "I really liked Raven's clue. Thank you".
And then the rest of us are left wondering, "Which was Raven's clue?" So then we have to ask in the chat.
But if these details commonly appear in the interface on the side, then it will be common knowledge who gave what clue.
2022年11月 4日 1:01 • Waltex • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Yes it would also be useful to see in the interface on the right-hand side which clues were validated and invalidated.
Maybe you can simply show this by using strike-through text formatting.
Here's an image of strike-through text formatting:
cdn.nerdschalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/strikethrough-logo-1-759x427.png?width=500
Maybe you can simply show this by using strike-through text formatting.
Here's an image of strike-through text formatting:
cdn.nerdschalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/strikethrough-logo-1-759x427.png?width=500
2022年12月29日 22:35 • Goof_ • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
This has been solved by the addition of the Clues-to-chat-feature
2022年12月30日 13:15 • aghagh • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
The new Clues-to-chat feature partially addresses this, but not 100%. The full list of clues is indicated in the chat as before and now clues from players are indicated in the log. But no reference to which clues were invalidated. So you can come back to a TB table, see the judge in the previous turn invalidated one clue and not know which of the clues was the one invalidated.
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