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#78228: "Create new variant "Allow any combination to be captured UNLESS the same card is on the table""
#78228: "Create new variant "Allow any combination to be captured UNLESS the same card is on the table""
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細節描述
• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
Rules to be applied:
- If there is already a card with the same value, then capture that card only
- If there are multiple cards whose sum equals the played card, then allow any combination to be captured
In summary, a mix between the 2 existing variants.• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Irrelevant
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Rules to be applied:
- If there is already a card with the same value, then capture that card only
- If there are multiple cards whose sum equals the played card, then allow any combination to be captured
In summary, a mix between the 2 existing variants.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Irrelevant
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Rules to be applied:
- If there is already a card with the same value, then capture that card only
- If there are multiple cards whose sum equals the played card, then allow any combination to be captured
In summary, a mix between the 2 existing variants.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Irrelevant
• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
Rules to be applied:
- If there is already a card with the same value, then capture that card only
- If there are multiple cards whose sum equals the played card, then allow any combination to be captured
In summary, a mix between the 2 existing variants.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Irrelevant
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
Rules to be applied:
- If there is already a card with the same value, then capture that card only
- If there are multiple cards whose sum equals the played card, then allow any combination to be captured
In summary, a mix between the 2 existing variants.• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Irrelevant
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
Rules to be applied:
- If there is already a card with the same value, then capture that card only
- If there are multiple cards whose sum equals the played card, then allow any combination to be captured
In summary, a mix between the 2 existing variants.• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Irrelevant
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（當前遊戲指示是什麼）
Rules to be applied:
- If there is already a card with the same value, then capture that card only
- If there are multiple cards whose sum equals the played card, then allow any combination to be captured
In summary, a mix between the 2 existing variants.• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Irrelevant
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Rules to be applied:
- If there is already a card with the same value, then capture that card only
- If there are multiple cards whose sum equals the played card, then allow any combination to be captured
In summary, a mix between the 2 existing variants.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Irrelevant
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
Rules to be applied:
- If there is already a card with the same value, then capture that card only
- If there are multiple cards whose sum equals the played card, then allow any combination to be captured
In summary, a mix between the 2 existing variants.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Irrelevant
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
Rules to be applied:
- If there is already a card with the same value, then capture that card only
- If there are multiple cards whose sum equals the played card, then allow any combination to be captured
In summary, a mix between the 2 existing variants.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Irrelevant
案件沿革
2022年12月29日 14:57 • Vogliovincere • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I totally agree. I specify it is not a mix between 2 variants, it is the right rule for standard scopa that should be applied also and particularly in ARENA
2022年12月30日 8:41 • FelixFelicus7 • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
Many thanks for proposing to add this 'new' option/variant PiratJack! Really appreciate it. I understand that players need to keep the 2nd existing option (allow any combo to be captured) for Cirulla & Frac, but this new option could probably replace the 1st existing option (only allow lowest number of cards be captured) if it made it easier for you to implement? I do not think you would get any argument from experienced players.
2023年 1月26日 14:57 • PiratJack • 此建議已獲實施:
Hello,
I have now implemented this new variant as a separate option.
@Vogliovincere: I find it very annoying when you call things "the right rule", because it means what I've done is wrong. Since I don't like spending my free time for people saying that, let me be straightforward: if you keep arguing that "this is the right way", I'll block you and stop working on your ideas.
@FelixFelicus7: Thanks for your kind words!
It's actually easier to add a separate part in the code, rather than rework the existing one (there are many interactions, if I "remove" a condition somewhere, it may break other cases).
Frac & Cirulla are handled in a separate way anyway, since they follow very different rules.
In the end, it wasn't too hard to implement ;)
Regards,
PiratJack
I have now implemented this new variant as a separate option.
@Vogliovincere: I find it very annoying when you call things "the right rule", because it means what I've done is wrong. Since I don't like spending my free time for people saying that, let me be straightforward: if you keep arguing that "this is the right way", I'll block you and stop working on your ideas.
@FelixFelicus7: Thanks for your kind words!
It's actually easier to add a separate part in the code, rather than rework the existing one (there are many interactions, if I "remove" a condition somewhere, it may break other cases).
Frac & Cirulla are handled in a separate way anyway, since they follow very different rules.
In the end, it wasn't too hard to implement ;)
Regards,
PiratJack
2023年 1月26日 22:11 • Vogliovincere • 此建議已獲實施:
the final goal is that ARENA is played with the right standard rules. so I thank for the option you just created, but I will never enjoy, if they will be not in ARENA. No guru can change an historical game. but you can create a new game, call it "my game" and decide rules.
I thank for your efforts, for your time, but SCOPA standard game is something you and I did not invent, it is something we only can decide to respect or not. you do not like to be wrong, nobody does, call it in a different way, but this is the only right way to play standard scopa, historically speaking. thanks again.
I thank for your efforts, for your time, but SCOPA standard game is something you and I did not invent, it is something we only can decide to respect or not. you do not like to be wrong, nobody does, call it in a different way, but this is the only right way to play standard scopa, historically speaking. thanks again.
2023年 1月26日 23:07 • FelixFelicus7 • 此建議已獲實施:
Many thanks for your patience & expertise PiratJack!!
I had a quick look within the "If multiple combinations of cards can be captured:" section & couldn't find the new option - am I looking in the wrong place or is it still to be applied?
To Vogliovincere re having it in the next Arena section, that's easily achieved if the gurus suggest it & put it to a vote!
I had a quick look within the "If multiple combinations of cards can be captured:" section & couldn't find the new option - am I looking in the wrong place or is it still to be applied?
To Vogliovincere re having it in the next Arena section, that's easily achieved if the gurus suggest it & put it to a vote!
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