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#79132: "Unconfirmed machine translations should not be used in games"
#79132: "Unconfirmed machine translations should not be used in games"
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細節描述
• 如果可以的話,請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
When a string is machine translated, it is used in games (and on the website) after the daily translation update. While machine translations are often really useful, sometimes they are catastrophically wrong.
It would be good if unconfirmed machine translations (blue background) stayed hidden until a human has confirmed them (green background) – the original English string should be visible instead.• 請說明你當時想做什麼,你做了什麼,然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v109
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
When a string is machine translated, it is used in games (and on the website) after the daily translation update. While machine translations are often really useful, sometimes they are catastrophically wrong.
It would be good if unconfirmed machine translations (blue background) stayed hidden until a human has confirmed them (green background) – the original English string should be visible instead.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v109
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
When a string is machine translated, it is used in games (and on the website) after the daily translation update. While machine translations are often really useful, sometimes they are catastrophically wrong.
It would be good if unconfirmed machine translations (blue background) stayed hidden until a human has confirmed them (green background) – the original English string should be visible instead.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v109
• 當你不能動作時,螢幕上顯示什麼?(螢幕全黑?部份遊戲介面?錯誤訊息?)
When a string is machine translated, it is used in games (and on the website) after the daily translation update. While machine translations are often really useful, sometimes they are catastrophically wrong.
It would be good if unconfirmed machine translations (blue background) stayed hidden until a human has confirmed them (green background) – the original English string should be visible instead.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v109
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏?
When a string is machine translated, it is used in games (and on the website) after the daily translation update. While machine translations are often really useful, sometimes they are catastrophically wrong.
It would be good if unconfirmed machine translations (blue background) stayed hidden until a human has confirmed them (green background) – the original English string should be visible instead.• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到?若可以是在哪步?(重播時左上角資訊)
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v109
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動?
When a string is machine translated, it is used in games (and on the website) after the daily translation update. While machine translations are often really useful, sometimes they are catastrophically wrong.
It would be good if unconfirmed machine translations (blue background) stayed hidden until a human has confirmed them (green background) – the original English string should be visible instead.• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼?
• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v109
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步?(當前遊戲指示是什麼)
When a string is machine translated, it is used in games (and on the website) after the daily translation update. While machine translations are often really useful, sometimes they are catastrophically wrong.
It would be good if unconfirmed machine translations (blue background) stayed hidden until a human has confirmed them (green background) – the original English string should be visible instead.• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼(錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...)?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v109
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
When a string is machine translated, it is used in games (and on the website) after the daily translation update. While machine translations are often really useful, sometimes they are catastrophically wrong.
It would be good if unconfirmed machine translations (blue background) stayed hidden until a human has confirmed them (green background) – the original English string should be visible instead.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v109
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
When a string is machine translated, it is used in games (and on the website) after the daily translation update. While machine translations are often really useful, sometimes they are catastrophically wrong.
It would be good if unconfirmed machine translations (blue background) stayed hidden until a human has confirmed them (green background) – the original English string should be visible instead.• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎?若為真,其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時?
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v109
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議,以便讓人一目了然。
When a string is machine translated, it is used in games (and on the website) after the daily translation update. While machine translations are often really useful, sometimes they are catastrophically wrong.
It would be good if unconfirmed machine translations (blue background) stayed hidden until a human has confirmed them (green background) – the original English string should be visible instead.• 你的瀏覽器是什麼?
Google Chrome v109
案件沿革
2023年 1月13日 18:34 • fruktansvärt • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
If this suggestion is implemented, more games could be slated for machine translation (in my language only the most popular and the newest games get machine translated), which would possibly result in more games getting properly translated faster.
2023年 1月14日 6:38 • cigma • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
I am sorry to say, but I don't agree with you on this, fruktansvärt (at least not for german translations).
Hiding unconfirmed machine translations leads to a mix of languages, sometimes even in the same sentence. Even for me as an experienced BGA-translator, a game in this state is inconvenient or close to unplayable. I think this stage should be as short as possible.
Also when google has problems with a correct translation, it is likely that a manual translation faces the same problem, as game context is missing. So it is easier to find and correct the "catastrophically wrong" texts if shown during gameplay.
My experience with (german) machine translation on BGA is that it is not perfect, but ok. I can't remember a machine translation "catastrophically wrong" (rather with human translation), but of course this is language dependend.
Hiding unconfirmed machine translations leads to a mix of languages, sometimes even in the same sentence. Even for me as an experienced BGA-translator, a game in this state is inconvenient or close to unplayable. I think this stage should be as short as possible.
Also when google has problems with a correct translation, it is likely that a manual translation faces the same problem, as game context is missing. So it is easier to find and correct the "catastrophically wrong" texts if shown during gameplay.
My experience with (german) machine translation on BGA is that it is not perfect, but ok. I can't remember a machine translation "catastrophically wrong" (rather with human translation), but of course this is language dependend.
2023年 1月18日 6:05 • ufm • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
FYI you can change the interface language temporarily into English by putting ?lang=en (or replace ? to & if there are other arguments) at the end of a site URL. Doesn't work in replay though.
2023年 1月18日 14:03 • fruktansvärt • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
"Hiding unconfirmed machine translations leads to a mix of languages, sometimes even in the same sentence."
Yes, but so does leaving half the game untranslated. And the machine translation API only translates 100 strings at a time…
With Google translate, the closer to English the target language is and the larger the user base is, the better the translation is. And German is both close and large. Even in Swedish, I've seen the occasional string translated to mean the opposite of the source string. And a translator to an Asian language claimed all machine translated strings needed human tweaking (or words to that effect).
Yes, but so does leaving half the game untranslated. And the machine translation API only translates 100 strings at a time…
With Google translate, the closer to English the target language is and the larger the user base is, the better the translation is. And German is both close and large. Even in Swedish, I've seen the occasional string translated to mean the opposite of the source string. And a translator to an Asian language claimed all machine translated strings needed human tweaking (or words to that effect).
2023年 1月20日 0:24 • cigma • 此建議尚未被開發者分析過:
"the machine translation API only translates 100 strings at a time" - So maybe this is a problem that should be addressed?
"a translator to an Asian language claimed all machine translated strings needed human tweaking" - I happened to use google translator in chat for asian languages (japanese and korean, if I remeber correctly) and I also found these machine translations inadequate. That's why each languages translation has to be rated on its own.
"a translator to an Asian language claimed all machine translated strings needed human tweaking" - I happened to use google translator in chat for asian languages (japanese and korean, if I remeber correctly) and I also found these machine translations inadequate. That's why each languages translation has to be rated on its own.
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