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#119923: "End Game statistics are incorrect and misleading."
#119923: "End Game statistics are incorrect and misleading."
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細節描述
• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• 請說明你當時想做什麼，你做了什麼，然後發生了什麼事
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v123
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v123
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v123
• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v123
• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v123
• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v123
• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v123
• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v123
• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v123
• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
The end of game statistics are wrong, and misleading.
I carefully tracked one such game - this table.
At the end of the race, My tracking should:
The game reports these values:
imgur.com/76JG4xg
# of 1! dice rolled: 49
# of 1! dice failed: 8
# of 2! dice rolled: 29
# of 2! dice failed: 10
However, I tracked my rolls very carefully, and triple checked the results compared to the game log:
the values should be:
# of 1! dice rolled: 44
# of 1! dice failed: 9
# of 2! dice rolled: 26
# of 2! dice failed: 11
It seems it counts the dice that are "secured" as being rolled - which is misleading for statistics.
It also isn't counting the failures correctly, Seems it's reducing the # of failures by 1 for some reason.
The game reports :
1! % thrown: 16.3265%
2! % thrown: 34.4828%
which is pretty close to expected values .. however, in reality, this particular game should be:
1! % thrown: 20.45%
2! % thrown: 42.31%
I felt it was throwing a lot of "!", and the end game stats were confusing me, so I dug a bit deeper.
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v123
案件沿革
2024年 4月 5日 2:32 • Ditto11 • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Here's my turn by turn breakdown:
Turn 1: 12www3 (!: 2 )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5
# of 1! dice failed: 1 (the 2nd gear failed)
# of 2! dice rolled: 1
# of 2! dice failed: 0
Turn 2: 1r23w4ww (!: rw )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 10 )
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 2 ) (one white die failed)
# of 2! dice rolled: 3 ( 4 )
# of 2! dice failed: 1 ( 1 ) (one red die failed)
Turn 3: 1rrw (!: rrw )
# of 1! dice rolled: 2 ( 12 )
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 3 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 6 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 3 )
Turn 4: 123ww4w (!: 13w4 )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 17 )
# of 1! dice failed: 2 ( 5 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 8 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 5 )
Turn 5: 234rr1www (!: 3r )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 22 )
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 5 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 4 ( 12 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 7 )
Turn 6: 1www234 (!: w )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 27 )
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 6 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 14 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 7 )
Turn 7: 1rr234ww (!: 34 ) (Sec: w)
# of 1! dice rolled: 3 ( 30 ) *Rolled: 12w (the 2nd w was secured; not rolled)
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 7 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 16 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 9 )
Turn 8: 4321www (!: - )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 35 )
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 7 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 18 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
Turn 9: 2w341rrww (!: - )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 40 )
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 7 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 4 ( 22 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
Turn 10: 1234w (!: 1w )
# of 1! dice rolled: 3 ( 43 )
# of 1! dice failed: 2 ( 9 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 24 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
Turn 11: 1rr234www (!: 34 ) (Sec: 1rrwww)
# of 1! dice rolled: 1 ( 44 ) *Rolled: 2nd gear die only. others were secured.
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 26 ) *Rolled: 3 and 4 - two red were secured.
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 11 )
Here's google sheet to help track/count the values if you're interested in checking yourself.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LrW3U0X2MlTlkQHx2gGdq4MAb3AKtpNWCGDBqvLYllc/edit?usp=sharing
Turn 1: 12www3 (!: 2 )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5
# of 1! dice failed: 1 (the 2nd gear failed)
# of 2! dice rolled: 1
# of 2! dice failed: 0
Turn 2: 1r23w4ww (!: rw )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 10 )
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 2 ) (one white die failed)
# of 2! dice rolled: 3 ( 4 )
# of 2! dice failed: 1 ( 1 ) (one red die failed)
Turn 3: 1rrw (!: rrw )
# of 1! dice rolled: 2 ( 12 )
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 3 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 6 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 3 )
Turn 4: 123ww4w (!: 13w4 )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 17 )
# of 1! dice failed: 2 ( 5 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 8 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 5 )
Turn 5: 234rr1www (!: 3r )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 22 )
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 5 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 4 ( 12 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 7 )
Turn 6: 1www234 (!: w )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 27 )
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 6 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 14 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 7 )
Turn 7: 1rr234ww (!: 34 ) (Sec: w)
# of 1! dice rolled: 3 ( 30 ) *Rolled: 12w (the 2nd w was secured; not rolled)
# of 1! dice failed: 1 ( 7 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 16 )
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 9 )
Turn 8: 4321www (!: - )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 35 )
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 7 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 18 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
Turn 9: 2w341rrww (!: - )
# of 1! dice rolled: 5 ( 40 )
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 7 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 4 ( 22 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
Turn 10: 1234w (!: 1w )
# of 1! dice rolled: 3 ( 43 )
# of 1! dice failed: 2 ( 9 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 24 )
# of 2! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
Turn 11: 1rr234www (!: 34 ) (Sec: 1rrwww)
# of 1! dice rolled: 1 ( 44 ) *Rolled: 2nd gear die only. others were secured.
# of 1! dice failed: 0 ( 9 )
# of 2! dice rolled: 2 ( 26 ) *Rolled: 3 and 4 - two red were secured.
# of 2! dice failed: 2 ( 11 )
Here's google sheet to help track/count the values if you're interested in checking yourself.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LrW3U0X2MlTlkQHx2gGdq4MAb3AKtpNWCGDBqvLYllc/edit?usp=sharing
2024年 4月 5日 3:13 • Ditto11 • 開發者尚未重現這項錯誤:
Another example:
Table: 495925712
Norisring map, GT6.
I played simple and very safe, generated lightning bolts, and used those to secure as many rolls as I could.
It's clear the game is counting secured dice as "rolled" .. and that will skew statistics greatly ..
The shared google sheet in previous also has a tab for this game.
in game stats reports 23 1! dice rolled, but I secured two 1's. so should only be 21 rolled.
It also reports 16 2!, but should be 11, as I secured a 5,6 and 3x Red dice along the way.
As a result of this, the in game statistics are VERY generous .. reporting much lower %'s of "!" thrown than what is actually happening.
Very misleading.
Table: 495925712
Norisring map, GT6.
I played simple and very safe, generated lightning bolts, and used those to secure as many rolls as I could.
It's clear the game is counting secured dice as "rolled" .. and that will skew statistics greatly ..
The shared google sheet in previous also has a tab for this game.
in game stats reports 23 1! dice rolled, but I secured two 1's. so should only be 21 rolled.
It also reports 16 2!, but should be 11, as I secured a 5,6 and 3x Red dice along the way.
As a result of this, the in game statistics are VERY generous .. reporting much lower %'s of "!" thrown than what is actually happening.
Very misleading.
為本案件添加內容
任何可能重現這項錯誤或了解你的建議之相關資訊，都請在此填寫:
- 其他同樣狀況的桌號／步數
- 按 F5 是否解決了這個問題？
- 問題是否發生了好幾次？每次都發生？時好時壞？
- 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
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