#161074: "Simultaneous play"
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• 如果可以的話，請轉貼螢幕顯示的錯誤訊息。
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
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I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v134
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• 當你不能動作時，螢幕上顯示什麼？（螢幕全黑？部份遊戲介面？錯誤訊息？）
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v134
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• 遊戲規則的哪部分在 BGA 版本有所錯漏？
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
• 這項違反規則之處可否在遊戲重播中看到？若可以是在哪步？（重播時左上角資訊）
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v134
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• 你當時想採取哪個遊戲行動？
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
• 你想觸發這個遊戲行動時做了什麼？
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• 當你試著這麼做時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v134
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• 問題發生在遊戲的哪一步？（目前遊戲指示是什麼）
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
• 當你試著進行遊戲動作時發生了什麼（錯誤訊息、遊戲狀態條訊息...）？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v134
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• 請描述顯示問題。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v134
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• 請轉貼未翻譯的英文字句。 建議將此錯誤的螢幕截圖上傳到 Imgur.com 並轉貼連結。
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
• 這些文字存在於 翻譯系統 中嗎？若為真，其是否已被翻譯超過 24 小時？
• 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v134
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• 請簡明精確地解釋你的建議，以便讓人一目了然。
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. • 你的瀏覽器是什麼？
Google Chrome v134
案件沿革
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41709
I added simultaneous mode in Yahtzee, Dice Poker and Shut the Box, but in those games other players rarely affect the choice, as almost all cases players have 'optimal' movements.
Farkle is different - Players will (and have to) push their luck many times, even while knowing the chance is slim, because of other players.
- In Farkle, every player except who reached the score limit gets an extra turn.
However, this extra turn is disregarded in this variant.
- Don't forget not every game is meant to be turn-based compatible.
Some games simply don't go well with the turn-based mode (e.g. dexterity, trick-taking).
In short, the suggested variant is not good enough to be implemented.
Sure it changes the tactic a little but it remains a push your luck.
Take a game like 6nimmt, it's kind of a reverse trick taking time and it is simultaneous; it would be quite boring if it wasn't. Or look at a 6 player Race for the Galaxy, 7 wonders, many rolls and writes etc...
And some do allow a part of the game to be simultaneous as an after thought with the option to go back to sequential if a player feels like order is important (Puerto Rico, New Frontiers,...).
The best analogy to Farkle is probably "Pokerdice" which has a simultaneous mode that traditional live play doesn't. Does it change the tactics ? Sure. But it works and most games with more than 2 players are played with simultaneous mode activated.
Simultaneous play, whether inbred in the design or added afterward even partially seriously help toward making a game good in turn-based mode for more than 2-3 players.
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